Best Drone Weapons?

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Re: Best Drone Weapons?

Post by Yaotzin » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:53 am

Torezu wrote:
ZedF wrote:Morrigi heavy drones don't have any point defense ability, so yeah they would need swarm drones to use PD too. Zuul heavy drones are the only ones with a light mount.

I was thinking of Morrigi swarm drones, which have 3 light mounts - 2 pulse phaser and 1 PD phaser is fun.

Don't forget that you get multiple slots for drones, so you can simply mix in 3-6 swarm drones per ship or somesuch.

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Re: Best Drone Weapons?

Post by Nerhesi » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:48 pm

quick question,

How much do point defence missiles do? Because they do a ridiculously shocking amount. Maybe I am wrong, but I am seeing a 450 armor swarm drone being 1 shot by those interceptor point defence missiles...

Yes no? I can't seem to find exact dmg numbers on the wiki either.

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Best Drone Weapons?

Post by ZedF » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:57 pm

Point defense missiles do quite a bit of damage, but the real secret to their success is that because they are seeking weapons they get a lot of leeway when it comes to arcs of fire. Often all the PD missiles on a ship will be potentially able to shoot at a given target, for instance. Because of this, they are capable of a lot of alpha strike damage against PD eligible targets, and of a high degree of cooperation between multiple ships in the same formation. But their damage over time per mount isn't really any better than other forms of heavy PD such as gauss or phaser PD.

Of course interceptors are missiles and thus can themselves be shot down or their tracking interfered with.
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Re: Best Drone Weapons?

Post by chris0101 » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:13 pm

ZedF wrote:Point defense missiles do quite a bit of damage, but the real secret to their success is that because they are seeking weapons they get a lot of leeway when it comes to arcs of fire. Often all the PD missiles on a ship will be potentially able to shoot at a given target, for instance. Because of this, they are capable of a lot of alpha strike damage against PD eligible targets, and of a high degree of cooperation between multiple ships in the same formation. But their damage over time per mount isn't really any better than other forms of heavy PD such as gauss or phaser PD.

Of course interceptors are missiles and thus can themselves be shot down or their tracking interfered with.



Do you think it's best to go all phaser PD or mixed phaser/missile?
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Post by ZedF » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:24 am

Well that depends on what you are expecting to defend against, doesn't it? :)

Though I might not be the best person to ask since I rarely get around to getting either of them even if they are in my tree.
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Re: Best Drone Weapons?

Post by Dafmeister » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:01 pm

As Zed says, depends what you're up against. If your enemy only uses missiles, stick with phasers. If there's a lot of torpedos and drones coming your way, take interceptors. If it's a mix... I've been experimenting a bit recently. Have a look at the firing arcs of your PD mounts and consider what angles enemy fire will be likely to come in from. Playing as humans, I've often found that the rearmost PD mounts did very little firing because they couldn't be brought to bear on incoming fire, so I've started putting interceptors in those mounts rather than phaser PD. The loss of PD fire against missiles is minimal and there's a significant benefit against torpedos. Not only do interceptors do more damage than PD phasers, they're coming from mounts that wouldn't have been firing much or at all if fitted with PD phasers.
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Re: Best Drone Weapons?

Post by Red Spot » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:15 pm

If I get both playing as for instance Humans, I put the Interceptors in the forward aiming small slot and normal/phaser-PD in the other small slots. You are bound to run into torpedos later on, and possibly some drones/shuttles before that time to allow them to be very effective. Interceptors are often too slow to be very practical as allround PD though, so stick to 1 or 2 slots with them and use normal PD in the rest, if needed.
(If you want to go allround with 1 type of PD, I'd drop the Interceptors first as least practical PD .. in general.)

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Post by DervMan » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:12 pm

I've also been trying different set ups for point defence. Traditionally,. I've used Laser Point Defence for fleet-wide coverage and Gauss Point Defence for personal coverage, as a rule of thumb. Phaser Point Defence typically replaces everything and Interceptor Missiles are only used where there's a case: if I'm facing enemy warships armed with lots and lots of Torpedoes, I'll use some, or Drones. Interceptor Missiles are specialised and so don't tend to see much use, but when I do have to field them, they're almost always very effective.

I'm also a little biased because I love the sound effects of Gauss Point Defence. ;)
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