It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

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It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by Slashman » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:32 pm

This swatting crap needs to stop. It is not funny and now it has gotten someone killed.
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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by Mecron » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:23 pm

Swatting is an aspect...ALL toxic gaming community behavior has to be stopped.

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Post by Slashman » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:46 pm

Agreed. But this particular aspect actually puts people in the line of fire and into potential deadly conflict with the police.
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Post by Mecron » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:58 pm

yeah but it is organically attached to all the other shit. Stopping it on its own is like trying to pass a law about pulling a trigger but leaving the whole threatening and pointing the gun thing alone.


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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by Slashman » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:23 pm

I get the point you're making and I largely agree.

However, I'm looking at it like this: Racism hasn't been "stopped", but you are much less likely to see a white mob lynching a black man these days without some form of consequence.

No one wants to see the hateful online speech and conduct continue, but actions that directly endanger a life through swatting should be considered criminal and have very heavy consequences.

The article makes some great points about the responsibility of the large companies that call this behavior "passionate" instead of hateful, vitriolic and inhumane. The problem is that money trumps all for these companies so they act accordingly.
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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by ZedF » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:53 pm

I think the guy has been charged and they are looking for the guy that commissioned the swatting. This is a form of assault and from what I’ve read is being treated as such.
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Post by Mecron » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:19 pm

I think it will carry as a criminal charge because the cops under this.shooting are desperate to get out from under this.

As for how this needs to be dealt with. I am not being pollyanna and saying all racism ends today. What I am saying is zero tolerance of dysfunctional behavior is the only real way to start pulling this back.

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Post by ZedF » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:44 pm

Mecron wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:19 pm
I think it will carry as a criminal charge because the cops under this.shooting are desperate to get out from under this.
That and they are likely pissed at being unnecessarily put in a situation where fatal accidents could happen.
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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by Mecron » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:04 pm

sure, but you cant miss the fact that his case is on the edge of turning against the cops cause once again they jumped the gun on deadly force.

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Post by Slashman » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:30 pm

A very familiar pattern by now.
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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by Mecron » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:33 pm

Yeah the other issue here is that something has gone terribly wrong with police training and culture in the US. But that is a whole other giant kettle of fish with lasers on their heads.

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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by ZedF » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:01 pm

Agreed that police training / culture does seem to be an issue in the US.

That said, if the cops in the US could be reasonably confident that every random joe they confront were NOT packing heat, they might have trigger fingers that would be a little less itchy. Probably part of the reason they have more problems with police violence compared to other industrialized countries is in response to a general population culture that’s more accepting of violence. Just to add another big topic or two to that discussion.
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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by Mecron » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:10 pm

Somehow over the past 20 years 2 thoughts have roared to the surface of US law enforcement culture. 1)they are at WAR with the ENTIRETY of civilian culture that is NOT in gated communities and 2) Self protection is the HIGHEST priority for a law enforcement official. Either of these alone would be very bad, combined its a horror show.

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Re: It's all fun and games til someone gets shot!

Post by Slashman » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:10 am

No charges being filed in the case against the cops. Not surprising I guess but still depressing AF.
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