Pavlov's Democracy

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Pavlov's Democracy

Post by Mecron » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:10 pm

Dear America,

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!!!!

A semi-senile, bullying man child does more damage to your democracy in a month than Communists and Nazis managed in 75 years and then he manages not to throw poop for half an hour and your media can stop wanking over him?!

WTF?!!

Do you all even know what the hell WAR is anymore? You send soldiers to attack people, bungle it, kill THIRTY civilians while managing to lose ONE of your own and the whole bloody country is weeping with the widow while your map king pimps her as a distraction. WHICH WORKS PERFECTLY!! Crap in a cup? You do realize that when you attack people with guns, MAYBE some of your guys will get killed? Right? And you had a choice in the matter. The 30 people killed while just existing HAD NO CHOICE. And your fucking baby monster of a president doesn't even say oops to them but goes on and one about how dead men should be thrilled about "setting records". In what? Sociopathic grief?

You know what? I am done. You want to get played this easy? You want to over look that someone has already changed the laws that keep your children and grandchildren from being deformed and cancerous? That will line the pockets of his friends at the cost of generations of crippling debt for you country? That babbles that the largest military IN THE WORLD needs more stuff?

Great. Good luck with that.

I'm seriously am tired of giving a crap what you do to yourselves or listening to lil creeps justify it.

I'm out.

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Post by ZedF » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:55 pm

It's pretty bad down there right now, alright.

But it didn't take much to get people off the bandwagon of cheering the widow and back on the bandwagon of investigating the Trump administration's Russia connections. Hopefully that does some good.
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Post by zanzibar196 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:17 pm

...And this is how a world, without the Northstar copes with the lack of it. If only things could somehow, be different. If only Kerberos would release the Kracken!
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Post by Defenestar » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:29 am

Yeah, team fascist fuckwit won one, but maybe this is as bad as it gets? Maybe after the Lord Dampnut presidency implodes on the launch pad, America learns something? The protests are setting records, the policy decisions are getting shot down in court. The Republican party's id has finally broken free of its restraints, and it's a complete fuckup at everything it tries because its core values are utter horseshit, and most of the right-wing types who're bright enough to get anything actually done know better than to accept a position on the SS Drumpf.

Not looking forward to finding out how bad the collateral damage will be, though.

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Post by Azrael Ultima » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:04 am

Defenestar wrote:Yeah, team fascist fuckwit won one, but maybe this is as bad as it gets? Maybe after the Lord Dampnut presidency implodes on the launch pad, America learns something? The protests are setting records, the policy decisions are getting shot down in court. The Republican party's id has finally broken free of its restraints, and it's a complete fuckup at everything it tries because its core values are utter horseshit, and most of the right-wing types who're bright enough to get anything actually done know better than to accept a position on the SS Drumpf.

Not looking forward to finding out how bad the collateral damage will be, though.


I wouldn't bet on it. 20th century has shown that there's still a lot of room down.
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Post by Slashman » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:56 am

Azrael Ultima wrote:I wouldn't bet on it. 20th century has shown that there's still a lot of room down.


The problem is that he keeps successfully using cheap, street corner, slight-of-hand with the media and they fall for it every time. As much as big news media wants to talk about how they are threatened under his presidency, what they want even more are ratings and stories to shock with. To stretch every tiny news blurb into a weeklong topic because its fuel for each of their news segments throughout the day and that's how they make money.

Trump has managed to make it so that even people who are completely opposed to him doubt the validity of the news media.

What's funny is that the news media IS untrustworthy, not because of 'fake news' but because steady, determined and measured reporting is not 'sexy' or 'flashy' or heart-attack inducing. It's about telling the truth that needs to be told so the people can be properly informed of the truth. It's not about sensationalism. But that's not where corporate news interests lay. President Bung-hole has managed to effectively blunt the biggest weapon against him by simply giving it what it wants. By saturating it with exactly the kind of fuel its looking for.
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Post by marshb » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:47 am

As an American, I feel like I let the rest of the planet down. :(
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Pavlov's Democracy

Post by zanzibar196 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:38 am

marshb wrote:As an American, I feel like I let the rest of the planet down. :(


How? Did you vote for trump? I know I sure didn't...


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Post by Slashman » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:49 am

zanzibar196 wrote:
How? Did you vote for trump? I know I sure didn't...


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Right. You just voted for someone who didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell which equated to the same damn thing.
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Post by marshb » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:07 am

zanzibar196 wrote:
marshb wrote:As an American, I feel like I let the rest of the planet down. :(


How? Did you vote for trump? I know I sure didn't...


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Embarrassment and an Irrational feeling of guilt by association. This whole situation goes far, far beyond "The ugly american" syndrome.
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Post by Vanish » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:08 pm

Nothing irrational to it. Big media outlets are primarily composed of second-grade actors/overshay specialists who couldn't be arsed to pick a side even if the foundation of democracy hinged on their very next report. We are the ones feeding them, and we are the ones consistently failing to give our fellow countrymen the time of the day when it really matters.

Remember that time when we let the media lure a large portion of the populace into believing that Bernie could be a viable candidate? Is it any wonder that half of those voters slowly went insane and eventually lashed out by going back to the ol' American way of Let's Not Vote AT ALL?

Well, at least there's always the next election. Maybe by then we will have learned that quaking in our boots and conspiring behind our fancy office chairs while the real action is happening down in the streets is going to do us no good.
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Post by Azrael Ultima » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:54 pm

Vanish wrote:Well, at least there's always the next election. Maybe by then we will have learned that quaking in our boots and conspiring behind our fancy office chairs while the real action is happening down in the streets is going to do us no good.

Provided the US still has that long.
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Post by zanzibar196 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:42 am

Slashman wrote:
zanzibar196 wrote:
How? Did you vote for trump? I know I sure didn't...


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Right. You just voted for someone who didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell which equated to the same damn thing.


Ummm... I'm sorry, but I don't follow your logic. In a state where Hillary won by a landslide, what difference does it make if I voted my conscience, and voted for what I thought was the best qualified candidate? Just because 5 million lemmings didn't agree with me, doesn't mean I voted for Trump.
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Post by Slashman » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:36 pm

zanzibar196 wrote:
Ummm... I'm sorry, but I don't follow your logic. In a state where Hillary won by a landslide, what difference does it make if I voted my conscience, and voted for what I thought was the best qualified candidate? Just because 5 million lemmings didn't agree with me, doesn't mean I voted for Trump.


It makes a difference when enough people share your 'moral high ground' across the country or when they believe that not voting, as opposed to voting to ensure that someone gets into office who won't set your country back decades of positive movement on just about all fronts, is a good option. But hey, its awesome to know that at least your conscience is clear!
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Re: Pavlov's Democracy

Post by Vanish » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:28 pm

The worst is, we knew that the situation was unstable. A politician of Bernie's tramp was obviously too far out of his element to really pull the nation together during a time when the refugee situation is as precarious as ever. And yet, we just watched, hoping that the writing on the wall would be obvious enough to mobilize our conscience against Trump. Bad idea.

As a Canadian currently residing in America, I'm sick of it. Sick of this unending legacy of always running away, and never doing the right thing.
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