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Re: FACTION: THE SUUL'KA HORDE

Post by Azrael Ultima » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:02 am

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Re: FACTION: THE SUUL'KA HORDE

Post by Naja » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:08 am

Erinys wrote:The closer the living beings are to sentience, the faster and earlier they die.

--Arinn


What does it feel like to be psychically "fed" upon by a Suul'Ka? What remains of you, physically?

Do the Suul'Ka physically eat lesser beings for fun or nourishment (or at least the Cannibal), or have they completely moved to pure energy consumption?

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Post by GildedBear » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:32 am

I get this image of a suul'ka telakinetically lifting a person up into orbit from the surface of the planet, enjoying each agonizing chill and gasp for air on the way up, and then chopping the tiny morsel. Though it'd probably be more like a whole group of people eaten like caviar. Of course, there's more deliciousness to be had by letting them pass out from lack of oxygen and then dropping them. All assuming, of course, that suul'ka play with there food. Though, one could probably take that for a given.

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Post by Erinys » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:47 am

Naja wrote:What does it feel like to be psychically "fed" upon by a Suul'Ka? What remains of you, physically?


Your body drops to the ground lifeless: you become a pile of meat and offal. As to what it feels like: it feels like soul-crushing danger, followed by paralysis and terror, followed by the sensation of being drained of all blood--chills, weakness, black-out.

And then you lose consciousness and you don't get to see the white tunnel with all your friends and family. You go to an ancient terrible place of darkness where something that refuses to die lives forever, knitting your soul into its own.

Do the Suul'Ka physically eat lesser beings for fun or nourishment (or at least the Cannibal), or have they completely moved to pure energy consumption?


If something is big enough to be worth it and in their habitat, they can attack and possibly even digest it. But there is not much that is big enough and in their habitat to feed upon.

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Re: FACTION: THE SUUL'KA HORDE

Post by Korgan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:54 am

someone needs to genetically engineer some space krill.

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Post by Cpt. Awesome » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:18 am

Korgan wrote:someone needs to genetically engineer some space krill.


Don't feed the Suul'ka :P

Just a bad idea all around.

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Post by Korgan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:49 am

better they feed on Krill then us

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Post by Cpt. Awesome » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:10 pm

Korgan wrote:better they feed on Krill then us


If they have access to readily available food to keep themselves constantly "recharged", who knows what crazy hi-jinks they will get up to. It'd be like handing them a "cheat code" to the universe.

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FACTION: THE SUUL'KA HORDE

Post by Goomich » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:50 pm

Make spacekrill explode after they die.

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Post by medic » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:43 pm

Or to posion the spacekrill? :)
BTW, are the Suul'Ka vulnerable to bioweapons? If medium fleet of Biowar cruisers can sterilize entire planets, maybe it can kill a giant whale too?
Or another idea - to design harpoon CR or DN, name it Pequod, find Suul'Ka and make a great Moby-Dick hunt.

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Post by Goomich » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:51 pm

medic wrote:BTW, are the Suul'Ka vulnerable to bioweapons? If medium fleet of Biowar cruisers can sterilize entire planets, maybe it can kill a giant whale too?


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Post by Aedrion » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:16 pm

Amazing lore.
Though The Eldest, I find, seems to be a little overdone.

I get the whole Psionic explanation but how does something that is physically dead, live? Is he a spectre? Is he unliving? Is he partially AI?

To say that he has become one with the fabric of the universe borders space-magic just a little too much for a game otherwise so scientifically correct. One would be more inclined to believe his mind is intact because his brain and essense is supported by the suit and he is alive only in that he commands a giant space-suit with his mind/essense, which just happens to have his old bones still strung up in it.

On the topic of Suul'ka basically eating souls. Why? Their own souls are pure, flawless, sharpened to an edge. Why would they need to pollute their own pure minds with the mind of those they consume only to preserve their own forms? Does Psi-drain also suck the souls out of something? Wouldn't it make more sense that either those that die go to the white light but die a terrible death OR that they are completely, utterly consumed and there is only The Nothing for them. (Though I find that damned scary)

The idea of being forever tied to a Suul'ka's soul is also very scary but it feels odd for such ancient, solitary entities to bind impure souls to their own.

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Re: FACTION: THE SUUL'KA HORDE

Post by erdrik » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:27 am

IIRC a beings psionic strength is based (at least partially?) on the "completeness" and mass of their body.
So in the case of the Eldest I would imagine those old bones hold some measure of power, and a small part of his "essense".
Tho, I am inclided to agree its all about his mind controling and holding whats left of himself together.

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Post by Aedrion » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:48 pm

Couldn't be, Zuul males are sort of small and they have significant psionic powers. Suul'ka are liir, liir gain more Psionic power as they age and grow bigger (and from the looks of them, fatter) with age. =)

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Re: FACTION: THE SUUL'KA HORDE

Post by Erinys » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:36 pm

Aedrion wrote:Amazing lore.
Though The Eldest, I find, seems to be a little overdone.

I get the whole Psionic explanation but how does something that is physically dead, live? Is he a spectre? Is he unliving? Is he partially AI?


Understanding the "life" of the Eldest, you have to understand how the Vitalist Principle is used in the SotsVerse.

Whether the science in the SotSverse is at all "hard" or "realistic" is very much a matter of debate. Science fiction is always a delicate dance between what is fun, thought-provoking and interesting and what is "real" in the sense that it conforms to what we know about the physical laws of the universe in the year 2012.

In the SotSverse, the Vitalist Principle is a foundational truth. The Universe itself is alive, and all living things are connected to that universal life and derive their anti-entropic nature from it. Entropy reduces all things to the lowest possible state of organization; Life increases the order of every system it touches. It binds molecules to other molecules. It reproduces itself. It builds.

Life creates. Everything from chalk cliffs and coral reefs, to nests, and ant hills, and beaver dams, to star ships and massive stations. Life strives toward a goal which is anti-entropic by its very nature.

Psionic ability is the ability of a living thing to connect to the living force of the universe...and borrow some of the fire of creation. Vitalist force can be used to bend space-time (telekinesis), to connect to other brains and bodies (Telepathy, Empathy, Coercion, and their derivatives), and even to gain selectively useful information about other points in space-time (Precognition, Clairvoyance, and their derivatives).

Psionic ability represents a connection to the life force of the universe...and that life force can be borrowed. The Eldest is a VERY old Liir. It is easiest, obviously, to derive your power and your connection to the Well of Creation from your own living flesh. But it is not the only answer. You can also borrow the life of other living things. Or you can wrap your brittle bones in the stolen flesh of Creation herself...the entity that Hivers call "the Goddess", the Universe itself, is also a living thing.

The Eldest is burrowed into the flesh of the Universe like a tick. Living flesh of his own has proven to be...optional.

Needless to say, the Hivers consider him an abomination.

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