Russian localization (poll)

Bringing the text of SotS2 up to date for Russian and German players as well as expanding into other languages.

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Нужен ли быстрый перевод?

Перевод желательно добавить в игру как можно быстрее
3
30%
С переводом можно подождать ради качества
7
70%
 
Total votes: 10

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shadow wolf
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Russian localization (poll)

Post by shadow wolf » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:14 am

Отписывайтесь в теме. Мало ли шутников будет голосовать просто так
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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by nightpatrol » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:49 am

Я думаю прогнать надо бы, в особенности поискать места где текст не влазит...

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by Eleahen » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:04 am

Патчи проходят довольно часто. Я бы не заморачивался.
Patches go out frequently. I wouldn't worry too much.

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by nightpatrol » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:44 pm

Объясните мне процедуру русификации пожалуйста этим файлом и как его скачать?

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by Eleahen » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:05 pm

Так. Вижу проблему.
У нас нет кавычек и при скачивании в .csv сами они не появляются. :)
Сорри, но прямо сейчас не могу этим заняться.

P.S. Скачать просто: Файл - Сохранить как - ... (File - Download as - ...). Дальше надо или поробовать открыть и посмотреть на опции сохранения в редакторе таблиц (excel, opencalc), дождаться castewar'а и спросить у него, или обработать файл скриптом.

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by nightpatrol » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:15 pm

Вообщем я ничего не понял (кроме как скачать), поэтому как будет время заходи в скайп))) Жду...

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by Eleahen » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:32 pm

Завтра вечером постараюсь объявиться.

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by castewarkp » Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:47 pm

I will leave it up the group to a degree, but I would advocate that we adopt a best-guess approach now, for faster integration, and if better translations come up, we can update later. Players have been without for too long and while I approve of perfection, I'm pushing for functionality right now.

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by nightpatrol » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:15 pm

А когда рабочий файл перевода будет готов?

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by Eleahen » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:01 am

@ castewar
Thread summary:
shadow wolf, starting the thread expressed concern with translation being released prematurely.
nightpatrol from his experience with Notabenoid version pointed that some strings could be larger than respective UI elements and some testing might be good to catch that.
(btw any feedback on font scaling would help us guide our efforts in dealing with the issue)

Then he asks how to download current version and (fixed that) we found a problem with Google Spreadsheets dropping quotation marks (on csv import as I understand).
Question here if you know a simple method to put quotation marks in a resulting csv file. Google seem to put only necessary ones (to isolate commas in a cell), and without the rest game crashes on launch.


And lastly, nightpatrol asks: "When workable translation file will be ready?"

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by zanzibar196 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:33 pm

It may be a pain, but you might be able to add quotation marks using excel....

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by nightpatrol » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:10 pm

How can I do it?
Manually? :insane:

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by shadow wolf » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:17 pm

zanzibar196 wrote:It may be a pain, but you might be able to add quotation marks using excel....

which algorithms built into Excel recommend? of you are waiting for manual (formulas or cycles)

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by nightpatrol » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:57 pm

Вот для одинарных кавычек:
Sub Макрос1()
For i = 1 To 500
For j = 1 To 500
If Cells(i, j) <> "" Then
Cells(i, j) = " '" & Cells(i, j) & "'"
End If
Next
Next
MsgBox "Готово"
End Sub

как сделать из него двойные я не знаю пока((

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Re: Russian localization (poll)

Post by Eleahen » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:12 pm

Ok.
"Quotation marks issue" is resolved.

To explain I need to present a timeline of events.
1) We start working on translation in Google Spreadsheets
2) We try to import csv to the game. And it crashes on us every single time we tried to launch it.
3) We thought of ourselves being smart and assumed it was because somehow game parser didn't like some string without those redundant quotation marks. :)

And it was much simplier than that. If only we looked for that exact word game threw at us in the error message. :)
It appears someone added couple of descriptions that contained carriage return chars.
As soon as we fixed it, game ran immediately.

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