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Refinery section - resources used

Post by fredNN » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:33 pm

Wiki info say "The Refinery section can be ordered to 'Refine' up to 50 fuel per turn using up planetary resources in a 1 to 1 ratio"

"up to 50 fuel for 50 resurces" is wrong. One my Liir CR refinery used 610 resources from a planet to make fuel for 11 DN (2 Support, all filled with fuel), 25 CR (3 Refinerys, one not filled) and 20 DE (3 Tankers, only one filled). All ships had still 2/3 fuel in tanks (range 16 of 23)

"1 to 1 ratio" is also wrong. In same turn one other CR Refinery converted one (1) resource to fuel for 1 DN, 22 CR (4 Refinerys) and 15 DE (4 Tankers). Before conversion fleet did have range only 5 of 12. Planet was before remote mined to 0 resource, then I destroyed there hiver DE Gate, and planet increased resource from 0 to 1. My refinery converted that 1 resource in all fuel this fleet could have.

If this can be repeated, will Wiki need to be corrected.

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Re: Refinery section - resources used

Post by ZedF » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:54 pm

Wiki is wrong about lots of things. Go ahead and fix it if you're of a mind to.
There is a limit to how much fuel one refinery can produce in one turn but I think it's something like the amount it can hold in its fuel reserve.
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Re: Refinery section - resources used

Post by BlueTemplar » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:25 pm

(23-16)/23*(11*6+25*3+20) = 49
just enough if a Refinery does refine up to 50 fuel per turn, regardless of how much it can hold
(Liir can hold only 40, according to the wiki)

610/49=12.45
there might be a resource multiplier involved in refining?

as for the second issue, I'm suspecting that the game doesn't check whether the planet has enough resources to refine into fuel, it would consider anything less than 50 (but more than 0?) as 50.

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Re: Refinery section - resources used

Post by ZedF » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:47 pm

Refineries still can refine fuel at planets with 0 resources IIRC. Not checking the lower bound is probably deliberate so that fleets can still keep moving in mined-out or locusted areas.
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Who Let The Bugs Out -- Hiver vs. Tarka and Zuul
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